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		By: Jake C		</title>
		<link>https://jakecoppinger.com/2023/06/mapping-pedestrian-traffic-light-timing-in-sydney-australia/#comment-734</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 01:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://jakecoppinger.com/2023/06/mapping-pedestrian-traffic-light-timing-in-sydney-australia/#comment-329&quot;&gt;null&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks!

I&#039;m very supportive of adding this data into OSM if possible, but I don&#039;t think dynamic SCATS timing would be suitable

&gt; This proposal does not cover, and is not intended to cover, the following scenarios: 
&gt; ...
&gt; - Signals that dynamically interact with each other]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://jakecoppinger.com/2023/06/mapping-pedestrian-traffic-light-timing-in-sydney-australia/#comment-329">null</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very supportive of adding this data into OSM if possible, but I don&#8217;t think dynamic SCATS timing would be suitable</p>
<p>> This proposal does not cover, and is not intended to cover, the following scenarios:<br />
> &#8230;<br />
> &#8211; Signals that dynamically interact with each other</p>
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		By: David James		</title>
		<link>https://jakecoppinger.com/2023/06/mapping-pedestrian-traffic-light-timing-in-sydney-australia/#comment-693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2023 05:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jake - a great initiative. I live on CBD-edge. Been a car-less pedestrian for 40 years!! Often find myself waiting at intersections for lights to change. (Time to consider &#038; think.) Have noted the delay problems at various intersections.  Have reported to Council, but seems they are hamstrung by the (over) controlling RMS. 
I long ago learnt that &quot;no one tells the RTA/RMS what to do&quot;; any criticism/ suggestions are immediately dismissed as &#039;we know best&#039;.) 
Railway Sq. (George, Pitt Lee, Quay Streets) is a classic intersection where one can stand and watch no pedestrians and no vehicles moving for periods - even at peak hour.
Encourages impatient peds to disregard lights and cross anyway.  At some risk.
Timers (have seen many elsewhere) help overcome impatience BUT need to be both &#039;How long left to cross&#039; AND &#039;how long to wait for a green&#039;.   Good luck on your campaign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake &#8211; a great initiative. I live on CBD-edge. Been a car-less pedestrian for 40 years!! Often find myself waiting at intersections for lights to change. (Time to consider &amp; think.) Have noted the delay problems at various intersections.  Have reported to Council, but seems they are hamstrung by the (over) controlling RMS.<br />
I long ago learnt that &#8220;no one tells the RTA/RMS what to do&#8221;; any criticism/ suggestions are immediately dismissed as &#8216;we know best&#8217;.)<br />
Railway Sq. (George, Pitt Lee, Quay Streets) is a classic intersection where one can stand and watch no pedestrians and no vehicles moving for periods &#8211; even at peak hour.<br />
Encourages impatient peds to disregard lights and cross anyway.  At some risk.<br />
Timers (have seen many elsewhere) help overcome impatience BUT need to be both &#8216;How long left to cross&#8217; AND &#8216;how long to wait for a green&#8217;.   Good luck on your campaign.</p>
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		By: Grant King		</title>
		<link>https://jakecoppinger.com/2023/06/mapping-pedestrian-traffic-light-timing-in-sydney-australia/#comment-692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 23:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jake, I came to learn about your work via the article on the ABC this morning. I feel we&#039;re missing a big point.

I get infuriated when I&#039;m standing facing a green traffic light at a crossroad but a red walk light. There&#039;s no traffic in any direction for miles. I press the button, and we have to go through an entire cycle where the traffic light goes red, then green for the road I want to cross, then back to both green for traffic and walk for my direction.

This is so brain dead. The signal should be wired to sense that there&#039;s no traffic and instantly give me a green walk signal.

That&#039;s the way it works in more advanced countries. Even the USA, where cars are king.

Keep up the good work,

Grant]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake, I came to learn about your work via the article on the ABC this morning. I feel we&#8217;re missing a big point.</p>
<p>I get infuriated when I&#8217;m standing facing a green traffic light at a crossroad but a red walk light. There&#8217;s no traffic in any direction for miles. I press the button, and we have to go through an entire cycle where the traffic light goes red, then green for the road I want to cross, then back to both green for traffic and walk for my direction.</p>
<p>This is so brain dead. The signal should be wired to sense that there&#8217;s no traffic and instantly give me a green walk signal.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the way it works in more advanced countries. Even the USA, where cars are king.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work,</p>
<p>Grant</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this is awesome, in case you haven&#039;t seen it here&#039;s a fairly current proposal for including this type of info on an osm intersection node https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Traffic_Signal_Timings]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is awesome, in case you haven&#8217;t seen it here&#8217;s a fairly current proposal for including this type of info on an osm intersection node <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Traffic_Signal_Timings" rel="nofollow ugc">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Traffic_Signal_Timings</a></p>
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